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The Scientific Committee Interview times struggle with hook wrestler Billy Wicks

This is a conversation I had with Billy Wicks, two years ago for the Encyclopedia of Science authorized, Wrestling, vol. 2. Wick (also known as "Pops") is a professional wrestler born in Minnesota, a wrestler hook (U.S. With Dobson United Shows Carnival Tours between 1951 and 1956), and an officer of the police retreated. Enjoy!

Scientific Wrestling: Pops, thanks for talking to me this way.

Billy Blades: Good morning Jake. Appreciate taking the time to ask about this. Keep in mind, of course, that I am a dinosaur of another generation of fighters. I'm not familiar with many of the MMA, material mixed martial arts and all the words you use. I'm used to using the word "wrestling" or "grip."

SW: How did you get involved in wrestling?

BW: I think I started when I was about fifteen years with the alder Boys Club in St. Paul, Minnesota down on Western Avenue. A companion by the name of Mr. Davis showed me a sack, a leg grab. I, who was very impressive, so it's really how I started. Like I said I was around 15 years of age.

When I was about 16 years, I met a boy named Quentin Clark Dale, who fought in Numa Arizona College and taught to fight free at the YMCA in downtown St. Paul. He invited me down. He was like 21 or 22 and I was like 16. It was a well-formed child. He impressed us very small when It occurred to us when we were hanging around the corner one night.

What attracted me to him was what I could handle myself or anyone else on the beach Faylen Park in St. Paul, MN. He can drive us guys in front of all the girls. I guess I get to my ego. You know how we, as young men are.

SW: (Laughs) Yes

BW: Then later after she learned to fight, when I was about 19 years, I met a lady wrestler professional. She worked in a store and had a lot of bruises on his arm.

I said, "Chico sure your boyfriend abuses you." She said: "No, I am a professional lady wrestler." I was very impressed with that. I said, "I fight too!" She said: "Any ever think of professional wrestling? "I thought," Oh my god no ... "

Of course, at that time I was watching the Red Bastien Oldberg and Swedish. Red Bastien was my hero.

Anyway, she told me that the pro-wrestlers developed over a bar, Dutchman's Bar. Roberts was on the street in St. Paul, Minnesota. She invited me so I went down there and worked on Wednesday and a Friday night.

Carny guys I met as "Crusher" Bob Massey,

Gene Shredder was a local promoter, Marv Watson, who was a fighter, and my best friend who died recently, Billy Carleson.

He Minnesota Mr won more than 40 kids, for kids 50 years and for boys 60. He was lord of Minnesota, who was a fantastic guy.

Of course I said when I was there, Billy Carlson was in the ring and this guy named Massey said "Go into the ring with fuses and fight him."

So I have there and took Billy down and pinned him as nothing. You know, I had an amateur background and Billy was a well-formed child. Anyway, well is how I started.

SW: Very interesting. Someone in our online forum wanted to know what five basic skills of catching all rookies wrestling trying to develop?

BW: I do not think I have five basic skills that every fighter should know.

Each wrestler has to develop their skills account. It is not wrestling and then there is no wrestling. You have to learn to fight before applying the hold.

You know you have three basic styles of fighting free, we will go and pine with another man, going to throw the other man, which is basically Greco-Roman, or we will introduce the other man. So is the amateur wrestling basic need to know as I'm concerned.

After learning that there are about a thousand is there. You only need to know about a dozen of good prey. Get to know them really good. Focus on your good dozen dams. You do not need to know a thousand wineries. You are not a better fighter because you know a lot wineries. Basically, put your thinking.

SW: What are your personal favorites is the wrestling and why?

BW: focused in the neck cranks, wrist locks and toe is. Those are the only three areas covered. Of course there are many variations of these wineries, locking front to face, back of block ...

SW: Who was Henry Kohlen?

BW: Henry was my first legitimate master. He trained with farmers Burns. It was a difficult old man.

SW: Who are your all time favorite wrestlers legitimate?

BW: Well, I guess I would Henry Kohlen say number one, my old master pitchman. He was 63 and I was 19 and extending my ass. It weighed about 150 pounds. From time to time referred to a guy named "Farmer." I had no idea what that meant. Farmer said this, the producer said. I realized after working in numerous occasions with farmers Burns. Of course, I know that you are familiar with it.

Other individuals would be Tony Morelli, Bob Cummings, Swedish Oldberg, Doug Henderson, Charlie Carr, Joe Pazendak. I got on the carpet with all those guys, except Bob Cummings.

Of course, Red Bastien. Red Bastien fool you. A lot of guys do not know that red was a hell of a fighter. She worked the carnival and had a lot of training under Henry Kohlen.

SW: The red is a man very nice, I know him through the Cauliflower Alley Club. What was your single most rewarding experience, a law enforcement officer?

BW: I can not say I've had some experience of Jake. It enjoyed being in a position where he could help people.

SW: What do you call your style wrestling? Is there a principle, philosophy, or a feature that differentiates it from any other?

BW: Well, I can only say that my style, if you have to use that word, my style is really amateur wrestling and wrestling pitchman, mixed. The cause of his opponent to feel discomfort and a lot of pain while their struggle, which is the showman style. In the process you are looking for submission holds.

Henry used to say: "Always look for the best wrestler you. You can not really learn much when you keep playing the same kind all the time. Try to find the toughest guy is out there. "That was my philosophy, I find the toughest guy I could find.

It's his way of thinking. If you want to beat someone, it's like a football match, you must have a plan. In wrestling, you have to keep moving and control in a state of relaxation, then look for your submission hold. Then apply for maintaining and I'm talking about things tournament here with the attitude that this guy just raped my mother and I want to hurt him.

SW: How has wrestling helped his law enforcement career?

BW: When I joined the Sheriff's Department in 1960 and was assigned to the Memphis Police Academy told me to teach "Tactics defensive ". I told them I did not teach" Defensive Tactics. "taught me" Mechanics and Control Techniques and detention. "

I figured as a police officer may be on the defensive for only so long before you have to get offensive. He could be politically teach correct and offensive tactics. So I always told them "mechanical and technical controls detention."

In my class, we I said, if you have to hit anyone with his club, his flashlight, gun or fist, you're a frustrated police and you do not need to be a policeman. Of course, that was the sixties, forty years ago.

SW: For those wrestlers interested in learning more about his style of fighting and fighters are there or coaches you would recommend?

BW: I think Johnny Huskey is the best. Undoubtedly, I've seen a lot of fighters. Now you see I had not been used for about 25 years until Johnny Huskey took me five years ago on the Internet. He contacted me and brought me back to wrestling. Of course he knew wrestling pretty good, but I showed a number of things he did not know, he was impressed with him, that's how we get our relationship going. Johnny is higher at any stage of submission wrestling I have ever seen.

SW: What do you think about the role of fitness in wrestling?

BW: You do not have to do a lot of air in wrestling. You find out what your condition is when they fight. Learning to relax is the great secret in wrestling.

SW: Can you talk about wrestling at carnivals?

BW: Most things worked carnival. We had to have what he called a "baton" in the crowd. We had to have someone in case no one came forward to fight. If you I have no one to start the slide out you can not make money.

Many people misunderstand the terms "amateur" and "professional." "Amateur" just means that they are not paid for their struggle. But Most parties are working pitchman. Most of the guys blew up after a few minutes anyway.

It was a great experience. At that time, in those days in the fifties, he had mixed martial arts.

SW: How important are wrist locks to your wrestling?

BW: The wristlock double hand-hold is the bread and butter I was taught by the old days, carnivals, and that is two to one, two their weapons against one of his opponents. That's my favorite key.

SW: Of all the ways to grab your opponent by a double lock side of the wrist, which is the best?

BW: There are three ways. You can grab the wrist, bring the palm of the hand (like shaking hands) or hold the four fingers on the thumb. I'll tell you, not touch on the wrist. If man can make a fist you can use your forearm muscles. If I grab so that you can not make a fist, then took me to 30% of its strength.

SW: And it always works on the left arm ...

BW: Unless you know the guy is a lefty. But I was taught that most kids are skilled to go through the left side.

SW: I never use wrist lock up, it seems that perhaps a good setting for a shoulder block, but blocking of the wrist first seems a measure that only runs on a beginner. You can only get more and the fight against it. Have you ever used?

BW: No, no, I'm not a fan of the wrist lock is among the top four.

SW: What about the blockages in the neck? All the old timers time did not go into hundreds different claims that some people say that wrestling has caught ...

BW: No, no, no, that is. There are three has what need to know to be a fighter hook, neck cranks or traps, double locks the wrist and hand toe is. If you know these three well-known wineries and should be be able to get anyone.

SW: How did you get into professional wrestling?

BW: Tony Stecher's brother, Joe Stecher in Minneapolis, Minnesota. In addition, Red Bastien, the president of the Cauliflower Alley Club. He was the man who was my mentor. He helped me into my territory and my first second territory. He I got in Portland, Oregon in 1957 and in Houston, Texas. I have to give much credit to Red Bastien. Of course it is much older than me, ha ha.

SW: (Laughs) Yes, of course ... How was it for you going from the amateur style and the style in the style showman professional?

BW: I was a little disappointed. As that you wanted to, I was a competitor. Then I found that I had to compete. You just do your thing. I was a little disappointed. But you have to travel a lot.

SW: Thank you for all this great information Billy.

BW: Thank you Jake. Keep your head up and elbows in. You just keep studying the things you say. I'll talk to you soon!

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Jake Shannon is the author and creator of http://www.scientificwrestling.com where you’ll find a wealth of information on scientific wrestling. Have a look now: => http://www.scientificwrestling.com

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